Smart Agency Masterclass Podcast with Jason Swenk
Bi-weekly interviews, strategy, and advice for building your marketing agency the smart way.
The popular agency podcast has just turned 12 years old and covers everything from starting a successful agency to selling your agency.
#1 Agency Leadership Podcast. Check Out Our Past Guests.
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Seth Godin
Best selling Author of Purple Cow, This is Marketing, Linchpin, Permission Marketing
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Guy Kawasaki
Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and former Apple chief evangelist
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Dan Martell
Author of Buy Back Your Time. Influential coach in SaaS startups.
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Gino Wickman
The creator of the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) and author of Traction.
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Neil Patel
Founder of CrazyEgg, Kissmetrics, and other multimillion dollar companies
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Uri Levine
Co-founder of Waze
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Joey Coleman
Recognized for his expertise in customer retention & enhancing client loyalty
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Mike Michaelowicz
Best-selling author of Profit First and Clock Work
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Amy Porterfield
Renowned online marketing expert and educator
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Pat Flynn
The leaders in the podcast space
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Jay Baer
Best Selling author of Talk Triggers, Hug Your Haters, and one of the best speakers
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Todd Herman
Coach to Elite pro athletes, leaders, and public figures
About the Show
The popular agency podcast has been around since 2014 and covers everything from starting a successful agency to selling your agency. What makes this podcast a must-listen is Swenk’s background as the founder and CEO of an agency for over a decade. Swenk brings his own experience to the table, besides the expertise of his guests. He mostly covers topics that help growing agencies scale to the next level.
YOUR HOST
JASON SWENK
Smart Agency Masterclass
Jason is a family man who also happens to have created a couple big marketing agencies, helped thousands of agency owners, and had a big agency exit too.
The Secret to Running an Agency for 30 Years Without Ever Wanting to Walk Away with Arne Hurty | Ep #930
Arne Hurty is the founder and Chief Creative Officer of BayCreative, a San Francisco Bay Area B2B technology marketing agency he has been running for 30 years. What started as a $500 illustration job has grown into a full-service agency serving brands like Cisco and ServiceNow — with Arne's son and daughter now working alongside him. In this episode, Arne and Jason dig into what actually sustains an agency owner over three decades: two business partner buyouts, a full pivot to remote work, and a philosophy of building the agency around life rather than the other way around.
The Identity Crisis Killing Agencies (And How to Rebuild Before It’s Too Late) With Jonathan Lewis | Ep #895
Are agencies becoming obsolete? We don’t think so. However, the traditional agency model isn’t just evolving, it’s breaking. Today’s featured guest believes the core of every business is dying and that agencies that want to adapt and win need to adopt the mindset of rebuilders. He shares why agencies have been in decline for over two decades and what it actually takes to rebuild a business that survives AI, commoditization, and shifting client expectations. Tactics alone won’t help because, at its core, this shift is about identity, positioning, and stepping into a new role as someone who doesn’t cling to the old model but actively creates the next one.
Maintaining a Small Client Roster for Big Agency Success with Nick Francis | Ep #769
How do you measure your agency’s success? Awards and accolade? Top-line revenue and big name clients? What if we told you a more focused and lean approach could be the best path. Today’s featured guest realized the importance of finding a "sweet spot" in the agency world, so he moved to focusing on quality over quantity. He talks about the challenges of maintaining a small client roster and the benefits it brings. In his business model, his agency is providing consistent, high-quality work and building strong partnerships. Learn valuable insights on leadership, innovation, and the importance of a good relationship building.
4 Key Elements in Event Marketing & Learning to Pivot Fast with Mark Testa | Ep #741
What happens when your entire industry comes to a sudden halt? How would you adapt to the circumstances to keep your agency afloat? As an events agency owner, today’s featured guest watched his business model crumble in just one week when the pandemic struck, threatening to devastate the entire events industry. It seemed the events industry wouldn’t be able to see it through. However, by embracing technology, his agency successfully transitioned client events to the digital space, creating innovative virtual experiences that kept the business alive during lockdowns.
Now, as in-person gatherings return, he's navigating yet another evolution: the emergence of hybrid events, as he tried to warm his clients up to this concept. Tune in to learn the most common pitfalls in event organization and his vision for the future of events in a post-pandemic world.
Staying Versatile and Adaptable in Uncertain Times with Amy Jackson | Ep# 714
Are you considering narrowing your focus in the near future, or do you prefer to retain the flexibility to take advantage of growth opportunities in specific sectors? Our featured guest today opts for diversification and maintaining her agency’s agility to capitalize on the expansion of emerging sectors. Gain insights into her journey of building a PR agency, her strategies for solidifying its growth, and the ongoing learning curve inherent in the agency's evolution.
The Keys to Staying Relevant in a Competitive Agency Landscape with Marlo Fogelman | Ep #702
What does it take for a business to not only survive but thrive over the course of decades? In the challenging world of business, most companies struggle to reach the one-year mark. Today’s guest has steered her business through over two decades of growth, demonstrating the ability to pivot and take calculated risks. Tune in to learn about her journey and the changes in the marketing.